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Read March 04, 2009, 07:31:21 pm #0
sanket

Debates on Double Blind Reviewing

I've been following with some interest, a debate on introducing double blind reviews (DBR) [1] in CS conferences/journals, happening on some CS blogs. They are mostly talking about theoretical CS, but it's valid generally. It started here (http://kdphd.blogspot.com/2009/02/double-blind-reviewing.html), wherein the author of the post provides some very good rebuttals to general objections to DBR. The context is the perceived bias specially against female authors, grad students, young and unknown researchers. Then there were posts in support of DBR (with some caveats) by Michael Mitzenmacher (http://mybiasedcoin.blogspot.com/) and Suresh Venkatasubramanian (http://geomblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/double-blind-review-again.html). There are many interesting comments to these posts as well.

While there are many who support DBR, there are many more who oppose it acutely. Some reasons for the opposition are valid, the important ones being: (1) one has to freeze research articles until published; this deters dissemination of knowledge (2) it makes declaring conflicts of interests in programme committees tricky (3) it may increase the number of submissions, as many people can submit their marginal work without loss of reputation at stake. However, there have been some good suggestions to address these problems from the DBR supporters.

What is amazing is the way this topic seems to have touched a few nerves among people who want the status quo. The arguments against DBR, range from blatant denial to presumption to totally fallacious. There are claims as the following - "Double blind reviewing is the hallmark of shallow "engineering" type disciplines, where pursuit of fame and power, rather the advancement of science, is the driving force." Whereas some totally deny that anything is wrong with the system. And actually say that theory people, unlike others, are too smart to have any biases whatsoever. None of them is joking!

What is even more revealing is that, some admit there are biases, specially in favour of well known names, and against not well known names; but they argue, subtly or eloquently, that it is only fair that this happens. When an involved proof is submitted, if it comes from a famous researcher, that is enough to establish the credibility, whereas if the name is unknown, the reviewer should be skeptical -- this is also an argument given. There is some very odd reasoning posted under the shroud that theorists are artistes, and artistes work should be taken in context, and brand matters etc. (http://weblog.fortnow.com/2009/03/you-can-separate-art-from-artist.html). Some of these remind of high-school kids discussing why a particular teacher is partial towards a particular student, and how it is only logical that the bias exists because the student has established herself as an outstanding one. While there is some validity in associating credibility with authority, if a program committee cannot decide on the quality of a work without knowing who it comes from, there is a problem with the review process. May be overloading or lack of incentive, or something.

One thing that is conspicuous from its absence is the 'it doesn't matter to me if it's a DBR, let's give it a try' view point from the non-supporters. Given this and the impassioned tirade against DBR, it is evident that there is a huge incentive for many to stick with status quo. For me, that itself is sufficient reason to support DBR. Indeed, some comments say things like 'I am probably okay with the bias as it works for me'. Some others say, 'Anyway, it's such a small community. We all know who is working on what and what is its worth.' It's odd that they don't realize how strongly this suggests entrenchment!

All in all, it is the fervent opposition to DBR, more than the excellent points in its support, that has convinced me that the conference reviewing systems are more broken than I had imagined. I hope that the problems associated with DBR will be addressed and that soon everyone will start using it.

[1] Double blind reviewing is the process of reviewing papers in which both the authors and the reviewers of a paper remain anonymous to each other. This is the alternative to single blind reviewing, in which the reviewers know the names of the authors, but authors don't know who the reviewers are.
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Read July 02, 2009, 04:19:26 pm #1
sri

Re: Debates on Double Blind Reviewing

I'm against double-blind system myself. In fact, I am against single-blind system as well. Let's have complete transparency, I say! Let the reviewers put their credibility at stake and identify themselves in their reviews. Let everybody know who has written a paper, who has reviewed it and who has made editorial corrections.
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Read July 10, 2009, 05:09:55 am #2
sanket

Re: Debates on Double Blind Reviewing

You might find this interesting - http://hunch.net/?p=829, and this - http://themachinelearningforum.org/index.php
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Read July 10, 2009, 06:06:01 am #3
sri

Re: Debates on Double Blind Reviewing

Looks interesting, maybe we should register ourselves.. And thanks for the citations. It would have been good to read some of your own commentary or opinions in addition to the links, however.. Wink
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Read July 10, 2009, 08:35:06 pm #4
sanket

Re: Debates on Double Blind Reviewing

I don't intend to go off-topic, but since the point is raised, let me respond. Increasingly, I don't see the importance of opinions that don't add much value. Sure, citations are cheap; but opinions are cheaper, unless one knows what one is talking about. Does that mean I should not give citations unless I have a valuable (at least, according to me) opinion to go with them? I don't think so. For one, others can use the citations and form valuable opinions/analyses and disseminate them. Of course, others might very well do that independent of my citing. But at any rate, I am creating a link or some kind a "tapping point" via my citation such that I have a chance of tapping into the value others create.

Coming back to the topic of this thread -- I had some points about single blind vs double blind, which I made at length long ago. Now, I don't know much except to say something weasel like "It might be a good idea in principle, though I am unsure how feasible it is."
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Read July 11, 2009, 08:45:57 am #5
sri

Re: Debates on Double Blind Reviewing

When I said, I'd like to hear opinions, the implicit assumption is that the opinions of posters from the forum members are well thought out.. Wink Maybe I should not assume that.

Just citations without any contributions are bad? Yeah, it is irritating, when they can be done better over google searches or delicious link exchanges, rather than on forums.
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Read July 11, 2009, 12:23:50 pm #6
aditya

Re: Debates on Double Blind Reviewing

When I said, I'd like to hear opinions, the implicit assumption is that the opinions of posters from the forum members are well thought out.. Wink Maybe I should not assume that.

Just citations without any contributions are bad? Yeah, it is irritating, when they can be done better over google searches or delicious link exchanges, rather than on forums.


Hmm. I feel a forum discussion is a way of expressing opinions and perspectives, and a person's opinion should include the history of his posts in a thread. A delicious link will not have the context this discussion provides and hence will just be another long and sort of interesting page. The context of the discussion adds value to the links -- even with out an explicit opinion.

Thinking aloud these links can resemble the external links of a wikipedia page - interesting side reads in a similar context.
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Read July 11, 2009, 12:55:43 pm #7
sri

Re: Debates on Double Blind Reviewing

In that case, they could be annotated as such: "External links" or at least a parenthetical phrase on what the links are about and how it related to the topic of discussion. 
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